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legalstories
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 Posted - Jul 13 2010 : 02:34:33
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FYI - We just spoke to the European Parliament who advised our lawyers to open a case in the international court of justice in LUXEMBOURG!
Mr. KEN GRUBBS irony and childish arrogance over presented FACTS will be submitted to highlight the TRUTH behind the SCENES of IZMIR!
TO BE CONTINUED... |
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legalstories
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Posted - Jul 13 2010 : 03:48:12
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Mr. KEN GRUBB keep repeating himself but ALWAYS AVOID to REVEAL the IDENTITIES of the people or companies he refer to?!
It is an ancient FACT that "A LIE TOLD OVER and OVER AGAIN BY NUMEROUS PEOPLE, EVENTUALLY BECOME THE TRUTH"
When reading Mr. KEN GRUBBS postings he SYSTEMATICALLY LEAVE OUT THE NAMES of the people he refer to and the CHANCE TO CONFRONT HIS CLAIMS! |
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Ken
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Posted - Jul 14 2010 : 13:10:51
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Ahh! Please stop! You're killing me down here! I'm running around in circles and can't sleep at night for fear the International Police will break down the door! Ahhhh!!!
1. Nobody that I know has done anything fraudulent, including me.
2. I have no reason to bring up any other name but my own unless I choose to. You know who I'm talking about, anyway.
3. What other people allegedly did is not my concern.
4. If someone mentioned my name in an e-mail, so what?
5. You are not a judge, or prosecutor, this is not a court, and e-mails and posts in forums are not sworn testimony.
6. I have nothing to do with this allegation about Zen Tekstil. What does it have to do with me?
7. As with everything I did for you, I received nothing for. I wasn't even paid back what I loaned you to help you with your business in the first place. How could you possibly have a leg to stand on here?
8. Your friends were those who loaned you money, ran errands for you, paid your bills, and let you stay in their house and run up their bills. And know exactly who I'm talking about. Again, you don't have a leg to stand on here.
9. All I know is that you owe various places here money. How you spin it and blame others for it is up to you, they are your bills, and you didn't pay them.
10. Saying that the only place information could have come from was the DHL office, well that's a rather premature conclusion I think. I know of at least two companies who have complained in forums that they lost money dealing with you. I would assume some of these companies contacted others. If somebody else did it, I don't know about it. It doesn't mean somebody went to the DHL office, and even if they did, why would DHL give it to them? Is DHL now a part of the conspiracy? Where does it end?
11. If these companies complained, online, that they lost money dealing with you, then obviously that wasn't because somebody contacted them and warned them. I don't know how you're figuring this one.
12. The prosecutor has already seen the charges you filed against me and thrown out the case. Now you're saying there must be corruption there. If the EU, or whoever, does a review and finds the same thing, will you also say they are corrupt? Where does it end?
13. I assume all you have to post is pictures and recordings you've made of people, which have nothing to do with your case. Actually, a lot of what you're saying has nothing to do with your case. It indicates to me that you have no case. So why would you expect me to take you seriously?
14. Repeating myself seems to be repeatedly necessary.
Please answer these questions:
1. What exactly are you accusing me of? And would you please make it brief, like one or two sentences?
2. Do you think that ANY of what happened to you is your fault, or is only the fault of others? Did you do anything wrong at all in your mind? |
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Ken
USA
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Posted - Jul 14 2010 : 20:12:44
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Well so far no information submitted FOLKS!
TO BE CONTINUED... |
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Ken
USA
97 Posts |
Posted - Jul 14 2010 : 20:54:03
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| Oh! One more thing... is anybody here a Rush fan? The Canadian rock band? It's great for background music for those times you find it necessary to explain to Bjorn that you're not part of a conspiracy against him. Don't laugh, you may need this as advice sometime in the near future. |
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Ken
USA
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Posted - Jul 14 2010 : 22:26:16
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Well so far no information submitted FOLKS!
TO BE CONTINUED... |
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legalstories
172 Posts |
Posted - Jul 15 2010 : 02:37:17
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WELL FOLKS YET AGAIN Mr. KEN GRUBB show CHILDISH ARROGANCE by AVOIDING TO SUBMIT the IDENTITIES of the PEOPLE HE REFER to in HIS CLAIMS!
The postings by Mr. KEN GRUBB follow the same pattern, CLAIMS with NO PRESENTED FACTS and IDENTITIES...
The coming evidence will PAINT A COMLETELY DIFFERENT PICTURE THAN THE ONE Mr. KEN GRUBB TRY TO CONVINCE YOU READERS OF.
If YOU (unlike Mr. KEN GRUBB who AVOID the SUBJECT and to REVEAL the IDENTITIES) check the dates of the material below once more, you can easily see the dates match:
1) Defne Atakan
2) Defne Atakan
3) John Robertson a.k.a "johnnny69uk" and "jimmycricket"
BE IT KNOWN THAT the Izmir law enforcement has "STILL NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND AND QUESTION JOHN ROBERTSON".
YET WE HAVE VIDEOS OF HIM INSIDE THE IEU - Izmir Ekonomi Universitesi
4) John Robertsons profile on the IEU WEBSITE
TRANSFERS TO Mr. John Robertsons account in HSBC, will be presented to reveal the LIES in his postings. (not to mention the "questionable private activity by a SCHOOL TEACHER"!
JUSTICE and HONESTY is ONLY GUARANTEED with TRANSPARENCY which former OSI AGENT Mr. KEN GRUBB REPEATEDLY AVOID as he SYSTEMATICALLY REFUSE TO NAME the IDENTITIES of the a) PEOPLE b) COMPANYS he refer to in his postings...WHY WILL BE OBVIOUS WHEN THE RECORDED MATERIAL are PRESENTED.
IF you follow the language and attitude in Mr. KEN GRUBBS postings (equals to a "bully" 5 year old) you may QUESTION IF HE WAS THE RIGHT MATERIAL to CONDUCT BUSINESS and able of performing the role of COO - Cheif Operations Officer?
"8. Your friends were those who loaned you money, ran errands for you, paid your bills, and let you stay in their house and run up their bills. And know exactly who I'm talking about. Again, you don't have a leg to stand on here."
FOLKS WHY IS HE SO RELUCTANT TO SUBMIT THEIR IDENTITIES???
Could it be that the evidence WILL PAINT A DISGRACEFUL PICTURE of their CHARACTER?
"9. All I know is that you owe various places here money. How you spin it and blame others for it is up to you, they are your bills, and you didn't pay them."
When an establishment ALLOW people to run bills in another persons name AFTER HE LEFT, one COULD ARGUE ABOUT THE MOTIVES?!
"10. Saying that the only place information could have come from was the DHL office, well that's a rather premature conclusion I think. I know of at least two companies who have complained in forums that they lost money dealing with you. I would assume some of these companies contacted others. If somebody else did it, I don't know about it. It doesn't mean somebody went to the DHL office, and even if they did, why would DHL give it to them? Is DHL now a part of the conspiracy? Where does it end?
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The ONLY place that had ACCCESS to NEW CLIENT INFORMATION WAS ACTUALLY DHL! Otherwise HOW could ANONYMOUS CALLS and E-mails be sent to NEW CUSTOMERS???
The RECORDED FACT that EVEN DHL BORNOVA, Izmir OFFICE and the "lawyer" in Istanbul the companys local attorney spoke to CLAIMED THEY HAD BLOCKED THE DIRECTORS PASSPORT, WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE ANOTHER LIE!!! The RECORDED CONVERSATIONS WILL BE PUBLIC!
"12. The prosecutor has already seen the charges you filed against me and thrown out the case. Now you're saying there must be corruption there. If the EU, or whoever, does a review and finds the same thing, will you also say they are corrupt? Where does it end?"
Mr. KEN GRUBBS case HAS NOT BEEN THROWN OUT, IT HAS BEN MERGED WITH ANOTHER CASE WITH ANOTHER PROSECUTOR and the INTERNATIONAL INVESTIGATIONS with the EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT as well as files to the LUXEMBOURG and STRASBOURG courts are in motion.
"13. I assume all you have to post is pictures and recordings you've made of people, which have nothing to do with your case. Actually, a lot of what you're saying has nothing to do with your case. It indicates to me that you have no case. So why would you expect me to take you seriously?"
ONE RECRDING FEATURE Mr. KEN GRUBBBS PRESENT (and long time buddy) with the companys DIRECTORS at the FOREIGN OFFICE of the Izmir Police.
In the RECORDING police want to bring the director to the prosecutors office, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN WHEN PRESENTED WITH WRITTEN MATERIAL (SMS, E-mails), and RECORDINGS of Defne Atakan they tell the director "WE HAVEN'T SEEN YOU, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN US, PLEASE LEAVE"!!!
SO FAR WE HAVE PRESENTED MATERIAL WITH CLAIMS OF MANUFACTURING CONTACTS and "INSIGHT" - READ Mr. JOHN ROBERTSONS POST ABOVE which CONTRADICTS Mr. KEN GRUBBS claims that "YOU HAD EVERYTHING TO MAKE THE COMPANY SUCCESFUL"!!!
IN ADDITION WE WILL PRESENT AIRLINE TICKETS WITH LATER DATES THAN Mr. JOHN ROBERTSONS posting, along with client e-mail correspondence CONFIRMING A DIRECTORS PERSONAL DELIVERY OF GOODS TO TRY AND SAVE THE RIGHTS OF THE CUSTOMERS DESPITE ALL EFFORTS TO OPPOSE THE COMPANY TO OPERATE!
NOTE: A company is run by its DIRECTORS.
Interesting in the story is that the turkish companys TURKISH DIRECTOR HAS NOT BEEN CONFRONTED WITH ANY CLAIMS EXCEPT from a customs agent WHICH IS WELL RECORDED and COPIES WILL BE POSTED!
Could there be ANY TRUTH in the CLAIMS from Defne Atakan, her family and network that "THEY CONTROL THE AUTHORITIES"???
SHORT LIST:
1: The companys FOREIGN ENTITYS BOOKKEEPING, RECORDS, and 3rd PARTY
PATENT INFORMATION are EMBEZZLED by Reha Atakan (Defne Atakans
brother, but POLICE REFUSE to FILE A REPORT)
Lawyer communication and e-mails from Defne Atakan will be posted
to REVEAL THE FACTS!
2: Directors are opposed to leave the country and meet clients
face-to-face and find ALTERNATIVE PROFESSIONAL SUPPLIERS!
3: At the same dates productions are repeatedly failed by
WELL ESTABLISHED COMPANYS PRODUCING FOR HIGH END BRANDS!!!
4: At the same dates defaming material are posted on
www.businessesfromhell.com and references to the site sent by
Defne Atakan, Conrad Icer and more (to be revealed in the legal
courts)
5: The director is stopped at the boarder by police and held for
5 hours WITHOUT GIVEN THE RIGHT by the VIENNA CONVENTION that
his EMBASSY receive information (ALL RECORDED)
Later when requested by EU authorities NO DOCUMENTATION EXIST!!!
6: E-mail to PANTONE INC., are being sent defaming the company
EVIDENCE WILL BE PUBLIC
7: Visit by "BAYLIFFS" to Mr. KEN GRUBBS friends apt. ASKING STRICTLY
(according to the RECORDING of MR. KEN GRUBBS friend) for the
DIRECTORS LAPTOP (likely to take away evidence) with a THREATENING
ATTITUDE...
8: NO RESPONSE FROM THE IZMIR BAR 2nd in COMMAND LAWYER and
ICJ- International Commission of Jurists
FATIH TOKSAL LAW OFFICE,or turkish court to
SUBMITTED EU CORRESPONDENCE STRENGTHEN THE QUESTIONS of
the TRUTH of the Izmir conspiracy...
SEE RECEIPT of DELIVERY BELOW:
ALL EVIDENDE INDICATE HOW HUGE EFFORTS HAS BEEN MADE and SEEMINGLY SYNCHRONIZED TO OPPOSE THE COMPANY TO TRADE and SECURE THE RIGHTS of THE CONTRACTED PARTIES[/b]
TO BE CONTINUED... |
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Ken
USA
97 Posts |
Posted - Jul 15 2010 : 03:25:53
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Please answer these questions:
1. What exactly are you accusing me of? And would you please make it brief, like one or two sentences?
2. Do you think that ANY of what happened to you is your fault, or is only the fault of others? Did you do anything wrong at all in your mind? |
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rushfan
USA
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Posted - Jul 15 2010 : 03:40:55
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What has this got to do with Rush....
_THE_ best band ever to come out of Canada? |
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Ken
USA
97 Posts |
Posted - Jul 15 2010 : 04:23:59
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Are you a Rush fan? I love Rush. I think Rush's music is rather esoteric, it's hard to find someone who shares my love of this band. Nice to meet another Rush fan here. How did you find this topic, may I ask?
I have to say that my favorite album by Rush is Hemispheres. What's yours? |
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legalstories
172 Posts |
Posted - Jul 15 2010 : 04:48:09
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AGAIN Mr. KEN GRUBB AVOID to REVEAL THE IDENTITIES...
Mr. KEN GRUBB show signs of the psychological term "PROJECTION".
The continued legal investigations will REVEAL the TRUTH and JUSTICE WILL EVENTUALLY BE SERVED.
WELL FOLKS TODAY the TOKSAL LAW OFFICE ONCE AGAIN AVOIDED to answer the EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT?! WONDER WHY IF ALL IS IN ORDER??? |
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Ken
USA
97 Posts |
Posted - Jul 15 2010 : 05:00:54
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Okay, now it's three questions. If you would just answer the first two, we could move on from there.
1. What exactly are you accusing me of? And would you please make it brief, like one or two sentences?
2. Do you think that ANY of what happened to you is your fault, or is only the fault of others? Did you do anything wrong at all in your mind?
3. What do I have to do with Toksal Law Office, and why would I care if they are ignoring you? |
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legalstories
172 Posts |
Posted - Jul 15 2010 : 05:16:06
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As MR. KEN GRUBB STILL AVOID TO SUBMIT THE IDENTITIES of the PEOPLE and COMPANYS he refer to in his postings IT IS OF NO POINT TO CONTINUE ATTEMPTS to correspond with him.
As a former ISO AGENT he ought to know better than to expect EVIDENCE being served to a suspect and jeopardize investigations.
SHOULD Mr. KEN GRUBB change his mind and CHARACTER and REVEAL the IDENTITES of the PEOPLE and COMPANYS he refer to in his CLAIMS,
the chance of "MOVING ON WOULD PERHAPS BE POSSIBLE"
It would be an advantage for Mr. KEN GRUBB if he were to tell his confirmed "acquaintance" John Robertson who is HIDING from the Izmir law enforcement to give his statement at the PROSECUTORS OFFICE, and PROVE HIS INNONCE?!
But we can only assume that Mr. KEN GRUBB will reply - I HAVE NO REASON TO MIND ABOUT WHAT OTHERS DO, YET HE REFERS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WITHOUT REVEALING THEIR IDENTITIES?!
The main goal of Mr. KEN GRUBB and the other suspects are to defame the company, its directors and to keep them TO BUSY WITH THEIR GAMES in ORDER TO CONDUCT BUSINESS and EXPOSE the TRUTH...
SO FAR HE COULD JUST BE MAKING UP STORIES, as SEEMS to be HIS PRIME ACTIVITY...
TO BE CONTINUED... |
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Ken
USA
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Posted - Jul 17 2010 : 22:12:46
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7: Visit by "BAYLIFFS" to Mr. KEN GRUBBS friends apt. ASKING STRICTLY (according to the RECORDING of MR. KEN GRUBBS friend) for the
DIRECTORS LAPTOP (likely to take away evidence) with a THREATENING
ATTITUDE...
Well I have to admit, you've got me on this one, Bjorn Hultin. What you're saying is absolutely true and I have no defense. There was a visit by court bailiffs to the apartment of a friend of mine, where you were staying. And yes they were looking for you.
I can clearly see now that I should not associate with any such person who would allow you to stay with them.
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As MR. KEN GRUBB STILL AVOID TO SUBMIT THE IDENTITIES of the PEOPLE and COMPANYS he refer to in his postings IT IS OF NO POINT TO CONTINUE ATTEMPTS to correspond with him.
Yaaaaayyyyy!!!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
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As a former ISO AGENT he ought to know better than to expect EVIDENCE being served to a suspect and jeopardize investigations
I was an ISO agent? I think you have dyslexia. Or is that lysdexia...
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SHOULD Mr. KEN GRUBB change his mind and CHARACTER and REVEAL the IDENTITES of the PEOPLE and COMPANYS he refer to in his CLAIMS,
the chance of "MOVING ON WOULD PERHAPS BE POSSIBLE"
What do I need to do to have YOU move on, Bjorn Hultin? You already know each person I've referred to, in the applicable situations where they are mentioned. To suggest to others that you don't know the people I've mentioned is pure chicanery.
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But we can only assume that Mr. KEN GRUBB will reply - I HAVE NO REASON TO MIND ABOUT WHAT OTHERS DO, YET HE REFERS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WITHOUT REVEALING THEIR IDENTITIES?!
Again, you know exactly who I'm talking about, each and every one in each and every situation. 'Nuff said.
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The main goal of Mr. KEN GRUBB and the other suspects are to defame the company, its directors and to keep them TO BUSY WITH THEIR GAMES in ORDER TO CONDUCT BUSINESS and EXPOSE the TRUTH...
My main goal is for you to move on and leave me alone. The only game you seem to be playing is charades, and you don't need my help to master that game.
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SO FAR HE COULD JUST BE MAKING UP STORIES, as SEEMS to be HIS PRIME ACTIVITY...
Yup, I'm just making up stories.
I can tell nothing but lies.
Stories? Dude, that sounds like your forum name! Legalstories!
Oh, I almost forgot to repeat myself again. Would you please tell me what you are accusing me of? |
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Ken
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Posted - Jul 17 2010 : 22:42:13
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It would be an advantage for Mr. KEN GRUBB if he were to tell his confirmed "acquaintance" John Robertson who is HIDING from the Izmir law enforcement to give his statement at the PROSECUTORS OFFICE,
O00ps I missed one.
This is a rather stupid remark which has nothing to do with me, but I'll answer it anyway.
John is not hiding from anybody. John goes to work. John goes home. John goes to the pub sometimes. On a few occasions in the past, I have encouraged you, Bjorn, to meet with John, even trying to arrange an appointment for the two of you, because John was ready anytime, anywhere, to meet with you, and I conveyed his message to you. In fact, John was trying to find YOU to settle the debt and the issues he had with you.
If that wasn't enough, I've actually received verbal abuse from John on occasions when I refused to tell him where you were, out of consideration for you, and he'll certainly be the first one to admit that fact. On the other hand, you, Bjorn, always had excuses to NOT meet with John.
You absolutely amaze me with how you can twist these facts, which you were certainly aware of, into your own version of events, then hide behind them and pretend to be a victim of circumstance.
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and PROVE HIS INNONCE?!
In any democracy, no person, accused of a crime, is required to prove their innocence. It is up to the police, and legal authorities, to prove their guilt.
Again, I have to ask, if only for the glaring omission of an answer:
What are you accusing me of, Bjorn Hultin? |
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